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		<title>By: melissa</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/jon-kate-plus-8-plus-a-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-4963</link>
		<dc:creator>melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 01:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always felt sorry for Jon, I don&#039;t know how he stuck it out as long as he did with Kate, Must have been his genuine love for his kids or something? Lets face it, the relationship between the two of them was not healthy for the kids either, The boys would grow up thinking that a man should be led around by the nose and talked down to by a women, and the girls would think that for a wife to control her husbands every move is normal, It was already starting to show in one of the twins. Poor Jon, would tuck his tail between his legs when Kate would chastise him like he was one of the kids, humiliate him outside of the home for all to see, Just like in the interviews, when Kate would jump on to Jon for interupting her, yet, she does it all the time to him, how many times did you actually see Jon get to finish a sentence, without Kate taking over?  And the episode with the coupon issue when Jon failed to take it with him to buy the shower head???? what was up with that? I feel bad for the kids, they are over exploited by the media, and the seperation has made it worse on them, they need to be left alone. Kate is always going to be Kate, a neurotic, phsyco, dramatic, controlling B---h, who is obviously insecure in herself and feels she has to control a man.  She needs HELP!! Serious HELP,, was she raised that way? or is that just they way she is? I knew from episode one she was FAKE, FAKE, FAKE!! My husband hates the show, but one day he sat with me and watched it, he was so disgusted with Kate, he could not watch it for another second. We have a loving, supportive marriage, and could not and would not ever degrade each other, Nor could I ever speak to him the way Kate did Jon. I commend Jon for getting out, On the flip side, I hope they both remember, that life is not about the two of them right now and put those kids first and leave their issues out of the kids daily life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always felt sorry for Jon, I don&#8217;t know how he stuck it out as long as he did with Kate, Must have been his genuine love for his kids or something? Lets face it, the relationship between the two of them was not healthy for the kids either, The boys would grow up thinking that a man should be led around by the nose and talked down to by a women, and the girls would think that for a wife to control her husbands every move is normal, It was already starting to show in one of the twins. Poor Jon, would tuck his tail between his legs when Kate would chastise him like he was one of the kids, humiliate him outside of the home for all to see, Just like in the interviews, when Kate would jump on to Jon for interupting her, yet, she does it all the time to him, how many times did you actually see Jon get to finish a sentence, without Kate taking over?  And the episode with the coupon issue when Jon failed to take it with him to buy the shower head???? what was up with that? I feel bad for the kids, they are over exploited by the media, and the seperation has made it worse on them, they need to be left alone. Kate is always going to be Kate, a neurotic, phsyco, dramatic, controlling B&#8212;h, who is obviously insecure in herself and feels she has to control a man.  She needs HELP!! Serious HELP,, was she raised that way? or is that just they way she is? I knew from episode one she was FAKE, FAKE, FAKE!! My husband hates the show, but one day he sat with me and watched it, he was so disgusted with Kate, he could not watch it for another second. We have a loving, supportive marriage, and could not and would not ever degrade each other, Nor could I ever speak to him the way Kate did Jon. I commend Jon for getting out, On the flip side, I hope they both remember, that life is not about the two of them right now and put those kids first and leave their issues out of the kids daily life.</p>
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		<title>By: Loewtta</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/jon-kate-plus-8-plus-a-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-4050</link>
		<dc:creator>Loewtta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been reading the comments posted and while I agree Kate has been extremly hard on her husband, I often wondered where is his backbone, at any rate I think she has done a magnificent job. I don&#039;t know about any of you but I was sure impressed when they were told to sit in the corner and they obeyed, when they were leaving each other they would hug and kiss,  I think the Gosslings have been fantastic parents, what they do and say to each other is another ballgame.  Just leave them alone and watch another program if you don&#039;t like them.  I for one love the show and will continue to watch .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading the comments posted and while I agree Kate has been extremly hard on her husband, I often wondered where is his backbone, at any rate I think she has done a magnificent job. I don&#8217;t know about any of you but I was sure impressed when they were told to sit in the corner and they obeyed, when they were leaving each other they would hug and kiss,  I think the Gosslings have been fantastic parents, what they do and say to each other is another ballgame.  Just leave them alone and watch another program if you don&#8217;t like them.  I for one love the show and will continue to watch .</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/jon-kate-plus-8-plus-a-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-3972</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 04:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish every one would just shut up and leave them alone. STOP JUDGING. Are you perfect? If you your life was exposed to the public would you be considerd perfect? Or might your mistakes and flaws be magnified for others intertainment. Yes they let the camramen come into their home to do the show. They didn&#039;t ask to be followed everytime they stepped out the front door. Kate if your reading this I just want you to know that you have my support. How painfull this must be. I went through a divorice and I was told that I nagged to much and was to controling. It hurt so bad. To a point this was true but the relationship falling apart was not all my falt. John, I know she&#039;s not perfect but you&#039;ll never find a woman like this again. Not that you can&#039;t find someone decent. It&#039;s just you will never have that bond that you have with her with anyone else. Don&#039;t let her get away from you. I am not a crazed fan. I don&#039;t watch your show like a religion. I just guess that I have a soft spot for your whole family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish every one would just shut up and leave them alone. STOP JUDGING. Are you perfect? If you your life was exposed to the public would you be considerd perfect? Or might your mistakes and flaws be magnified for others intertainment. Yes they let the camramen come into their home to do the show. They didn&#8217;t ask to be followed everytime they stepped out the front door. Kate if your reading this I just want you to know that you have my support. How painfull this must be. I went through a divorice and I was told that I nagged to much and was to controling. It hurt so bad. To a point this was true but the relationship falling apart was not all my falt. John, I know she&#8217;s not perfect but you&#8217;ll never find a woman like this again. Not that you can&#8217;t find someone decent. It&#8217;s just you will never have that bond that you have with her with anyone else. Don&#8217;t let her get away from you. I am not a crazed fan. I don&#8217;t watch your show like a religion. I just guess that I have a soft spot for your whole family.</p>
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		<title>By: floydine</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/jon-kate-plus-8-plus-a-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-3933</link>
		<dc:creator>floydine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 01:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do feel Kate Gosselin IS quite bossy-overly so-Good speak your mind to anyone-being anyone-but do you ALWAYS have to be such a bitch about everythng!  John needs to quit saying stuff like......&quot;I thot I&#039;d be 54 and dating a 19 yr old&quot; (forget which one I heard this on) They do it to each other-Get a divorce or therapy if you hate each other so much-??? Spare your kids the public humilation-they are going to need therapy for sure if you don&#039;t stop.
Then again-maybe your publisist was BORED-Everybod&#039; loves dirty laundry especially if it is X&#039;s 8......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do feel Kate Gosselin IS quite bossy-overly so-Good speak your mind to anyone-being anyone-but do you ALWAYS have to be such a bitch about everythng!  John needs to quit saying stuff like&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;I thot I&#8217;d be 54 and dating a 19 yr old&#8221; (forget which one I heard this on) They do it to each other-Get a divorce or therapy if you hate each other so much-??? Spare your kids the public humilation-they are going to need therapy for sure if you don&#8217;t stop.<br />
Then again-maybe your publisist was BORED-Everybod&#8217; loves dirty laundry especially if it is X&#8217;s 8&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/jon-kate-plus-8-plus-a-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-3921</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 18:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to point out to all the people hating on Kate that the show isn&#039;t just taped and then put on air.  It is cut and spliced to make it a show.  I have no doubt that the directors and the producers edited all the livid moments of Kate&#039;s &quot;controlling&quot; nature because they knew it would get them more views. &quot;Ohh great! A non-submissive wife! Let&#039;s turn her into a nag!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to point out to all the people hating on Kate that the show isn&#8217;t just taped and then put on air.  It is cut and spliced to make it a show.  I have no doubt that the directors and the producers edited all the livid moments of Kate&#8217;s &#8220;controlling&#8221; nature because they knew it would get them more views. &#8220;Ohh great! A non-submissive wife! Let&#8217;s turn her into a nag!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: coolred38</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/jon-kate-plus-8-plus-a-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-3920</link>
		<dc:creator>coolred38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 05:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might also add that men (and women) dont need an excuse to cheat. Even the most loving and caring partners get cheated on. Kates behavoir (such as it is) is in no way to blame for Jons possible cheating...he made to choice to go meet up with that woman (even if that is all he did)...and loving spouse at home has never kept wandering spouses from wandering if thats what they really want to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might also add that men (and women) dont need an excuse to cheat. Even the most loving and caring partners get cheated on. Kates behavoir (such as it is) is in no way to blame for Jons possible cheating&#8230;he made to choice to go meet up with that woman (even if that is all he did)&#8230;and loving spouse at home has never kept wandering spouses from wandering if thats what they really want to do.</p>
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		<title>By: coolred38</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/jon-kate-plus-8-plus-a-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-3919</link>
		<dc:creator>coolred38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 05:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ive only ever watched a few episodes of this show...all I can say is that people are not perfect. We all have our moments in which we are glad there wasnt a camera around to remind us of it. (and now days thats harder to accomplish with phone cams etc). 

We all love the idea of making money and living the &quot;good life&quot; but the moment someone does it we start pulling them apart with snide comments and out right bashing. 

Children have lived through a hell of alot worse then cameras following them around everywhere they go...the are resiliant and will get throug it. Believe me there are worse things in life for children to suffer. 

Husbands and wives clash on a daily basis...I dare say if someone followed you around for one day with a camera and then let you view it at the end of the day...would you be happy with everything you said and did and how you treated others etc? I know I wouldnt. 

Kate is what she is...and Jon is the only one that has a right to accept it or reject it...after all...she is his wife...not all of ours. And vice versa with Jon and his actions. Its for her to judge and decide if its something she wants to accept or reject...he isnt our husband...why do we care?

When we become voyeurs into peoples lives we feel we have a right to critisize or complain about how they act etc...but if Jon and Kate turned the cameras back on you for a day...how well would you handle the critism from the multitude of anonymous masses?

Why not view Kate as a strong minded woman that knows what she wants and doesnt wait to be &quot;saved&quot; or &quot;guided&quot; to get it. She isnt the  traditional &quot;wait and let the man handle it&quot; sort of woman...and she lets her man know it. We all use harsh words...we all use bad language...we all say  things we wish we didnt...but we all dont have it caught on camera for the pleasure of public consumption.

If you dont like it dont watch it..thats called choice people. Go watch Little People Big World...or whatever its called...or do you have some complaints about short people allowing cameras into their lives in order to afford a better lifestyle for their kids too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive only ever watched a few episodes of this show&#8230;all I can say is that people are not perfect. We all have our moments in which we are glad there wasnt a camera around to remind us of it. (and now days thats harder to accomplish with phone cams etc). </p>
<p>We all love the idea of making money and living the &#8220;good life&#8221; but the moment someone does it we start pulling them apart with snide comments and out right bashing. </p>
<p>Children have lived through a hell of alot worse then cameras following them around everywhere they go&#8230;the are resiliant and will get throug it. Believe me there are worse things in life for children to suffer. </p>
<p>Husbands and wives clash on a daily basis&#8230;I dare say if someone followed you around for one day with a camera and then let you view it at the end of the day&#8230;would you be happy with everything you said and did and how you treated others etc? I know I wouldnt. </p>
<p>Kate is what she is&#8230;and Jon is the only one that has a right to accept it or reject it&#8230;after all&#8230;she is his wife&#8230;not all of ours. And vice versa with Jon and his actions. Its for her to judge and decide if its something she wants to accept or reject&#8230;he isnt our husband&#8230;why do we care?</p>
<p>When we become voyeurs into peoples lives we feel we have a right to critisize or complain about how they act etc&#8230;but if Jon and Kate turned the cameras back on you for a day&#8230;how well would you handle the critism from the multitude of anonymous masses?</p>
<p>Why not view Kate as a strong minded woman that knows what she wants and doesnt wait to be &#8220;saved&#8221; or &#8220;guided&#8221; to get it. She isnt the  traditional &#8220;wait and let the man handle it&#8221; sort of woman&#8230;and she lets her man know it. We all use harsh words&#8230;we all use bad language&#8230;we all say  things we wish we didnt&#8230;but we all dont have it caught on camera for the pleasure of public consumption.</p>
<p>If you dont like it dont watch it..thats called choice people. Go watch Little People Big World&#8230;or whatever its called&#8230;or do you have some complaints about short people allowing cameras into their lives in order to afford a better lifestyle for their kids too?</p>
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		<title>By: Nia</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/jon-kate-plus-8-plus-a-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-3917</link>
		<dc:creator>Nia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 22:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t follow the show religiously so I won&#039;t claim to be an expert. But I do remember at least a couple episodes when he was being equally snarky towards her. I also agree with the comments made by Mariella and theKP. 
And what&#039;s with the ignorant, hateful tone from the majority of commenters here? Because you don&#039;t agree with the author you have to resort to personal attacks? You can&#039;t just respectfully disagree, state your point of view and leave it at that?  
Thanks for the thought-provoking post Renee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t follow the show religiously so I won&#8217;t claim to be an expert. But I do remember at least a couple episodes when he was being equally snarky towards her. I also agree with the comments made by Mariella and theKP.<br />
And what&#8217;s with the ignorant, hateful tone from the majority of commenters here? Because you don&#8217;t agree with the author you have to resort to personal attacks? You can&#8217;t just respectfully disagree, state your point of view and leave it at that?<br />
Thanks for the thought-provoking post Renee.</p>
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		<title>By: theKP</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/jon-kate-plus-8-plus-a-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-3916</link>
		<dc:creator>theKP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 18:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Kate is a horrible shrew of a woman.&lt;/i&gt;

OMG, Shakespeare lives! Kate is threatening to cuckold her husband and usurp his rightful place as head of the household! Don&#039;t feed her! Don&#039;t have sex with her! Don&#039;t let her have a new hat until she submits! 

Thanks for the great post, Renee. &quot;She&#039;s a shrew&quot; must be on a sexist bingo card somewhere, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Kate is a horrible shrew of a woman.</i></p>
<p>OMG, Shakespeare lives! Kate is threatening to cuckold her husband and usurp his rightful place as head of the household! Don&#8217;t feed her! Don&#8217;t have sex with her! Don&#8217;t let her have a new hat until she submits! </p>
<p>Thanks for the great post, Renee. &#8220;She&#8217;s a shrew&#8221; must be on a sexist bingo card somewhere, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Mariella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 05:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, a lot of people need to check themselves. I don&#039;t completely agree with Renee, but a lot of commenters are going totally over the top.

The way Kate talks to Jon does bother me sometimes, but it is NOT all the time and I actually think she&#039;s gotten better. Meanwhile Jon is also rude and snarky sometimes. That happens in marriages, in families - doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s necessarily right but neither Jon nor Kate is a villain. And when Kate gets controlling sometimes - I&#039;m sure it&#039;s a combination of her personality type (which he was aware of when he fell in love with her and married her) and the fact that she needed to have a very strict system to keep a household of 10 running properly.

The kids have had countless opportunities that they never could have had without the show. Maybe the show needs to end at some point, but let&#039;s not pretend there hasn&#039;t been a lot of good that has come out of it for the children.

Most of all, let&#039;s all keep the hatefulness to a minimum - these are real people, parents of real children, who are doing the best they can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, a lot of people need to check themselves. I don&#8217;t completely agree with Renee, but a lot of commenters are going totally over the top.</p>
<p>The way Kate talks to Jon does bother me sometimes, but it is NOT all the time and I actually think she&#8217;s gotten better. Meanwhile Jon is also rude and snarky sometimes. That happens in marriages, in families &#8211; doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s necessarily right but neither Jon nor Kate is a villain. And when Kate gets controlling sometimes &#8211; I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s a combination of her personality type (which he was aware of when he fell in love with her and married her) and the fact that she needed to have a very strict system to keep a household of 10 running properly.</p>
<p>The kids have had countless opportunities that they never could have had without the show. Maybe the show needs to end at some point, but let&#8217;s not pretend there hasn&#8217;t been a lot of good that has come out of it for the children.</p>
<p>Most of all, let&#8217;s all keep the hatefulness to a minimum &#8211; these are real people, parents of real children, who are doing the best they can.</p>
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