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		<title>By: Corinne Hyde</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/thats-dr-biden-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-3483</link>
		<dc:creator>Corinne Hyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reporter, as an educated person, must clearly be aware of the common use of the term &quot;Doctor&quot; to refer to anyone who holds a doctorate (though not typically for J.D.s), so I wonder what her motivation is for writing a piece like this.  I have sent her an email expressing my distaste with her article, and I&#039;d urge you all to do the same!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reporter, as an educated person, must clearly be aware of the common use of the term &#8220;Doctor&#8221; to refer to anyone who holds a doctorate (though not typically for J.D.s), so I wonder what her motivation is for writing a piece like this.  I have sent her an email expressing my distaste with her article, and I&#8217;d urge you all to do the same!</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/thats-dr-biden-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-3339</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At my college everyone calls all the professors by their honorific. If you put the time and effort into getting the degree, you deserve to be called Dr. Soandso.

I doubt the reporter spent years achieving his doctorate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At my college everyone calls all the professors by their honorific. If you put the time and effort into getting the degree, you deserve to be called Dr. Soandso.</p>
<p>I doubt the reporter spent years achieving his doctorate.</p>
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		<title>By: FemAcadem &#183; Best Blog Post of the Week</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/thats-dr-biden-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2997</link>
		<dc:creator>FemAcadem &#183; Best Blog Post of the Week</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] runners up are Sarah for her commentary at Global Comment about the very gendered  denigration of Dr Biden&#8217;s doctoral qualifications and abilities, and, Kate Harding at Shapely Prose for her post about [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] runners up are Sarah for her commentary at Global Comment about the very gendered  denigration of Dr Biden&#8217;s doctoral qualifications and abilities, and, Kate Harding at Shapely Prose for her post about [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pretty Picture Monday (and an argument) &#171; Bug Girl&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/thats-dr-biden-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2938</link>
		<dc:creator>Pretty Picture Monday (and an argument) &#171; Bug Girl&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Also, since there are lots of academics here&#8211;how do you feel about Ms. Biden wanting her title to be used? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Also, since there are lots of academics here&#8211;how do you feel about Ms. Biden wanting her title to be used? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LP</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/thats-dr-biden-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2934</link>
		<dc:creator>LP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 04:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually ask first. If they have in the syllabus &quot;Dr. ...&quot; then I will call them that. If they are a Mr. or Mrs. but not a Dr. then I say &quot;Professor ...&quot; because they&#039;ve had to have some qualifications to teach the class even without a doctorate and we&#039;re not on a first-name basis, so I play it safe and say &quot;professor&quot; unless another preference from the person is stated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually ask first. If they have in the syllabus &#8220;Dr. &#8230;&#8221; then I will call them that. If they are a Mr. or Mrs. but not a Dr. then I say &#8220;Professor &#8230;&#8221; because they&#8217;ve had to have some qualifications to teach the class even without a doctorate and we&#8217;re not on a first-name basis, so I play it safe and say &#8220;professor&#8221; unless another preference from the person is stated.</p>
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		<title>By: Gretchen</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/thats-dr-biden-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2930</link>
		<dc:creator>Gretchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it is because I go to a women&#039;s college, but we always refer to our professors as &quot;Dr.&quot; regardless of gender.  Though one professor has asked us to call her &quot;Rachel,&quot; most people feel so awkward about it we still call her &quot;Dr. Last Name,&quot; in class.  

And it is completely ridiculous to have an article that is pretty much solely about whether she should use the term &quot;Dr.&quot;  I&#039;m sure there is something more important that a journalist could be informing his/her readership about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it is because I go to a women&#8217;s college, but we always refer to our professors as &#8220;Dr.&#8221; regardless of gender.  Though one professor has asked us to call her &#8220;Rachel,&#8221; most people feel so awkward about it we still call her &#8220;Dr. Last Name,&#8221; in class.  </p>
<p>And it is completely ridiculous to have an article that is pretty much solely about whether she should use the term &#8220;Dr.&#8221;  I&#8217;m sure there is something more important that a journalist could be informing his/her readership about.</p>
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		<title>By: digg &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Friday Femme Fatale: Dr. Jill Biden, the Senate and Socialism</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/thats-dr-biden-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2921</link>
		<dc:creator>digg &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Friday Femme Fatale: Dr. Jill Biden, the Senate and Socialism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 01:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That’s DR. Biden to You [...]</description>
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		<title>By: labert</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/thats-dr-biden-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2887</link>
		<dc:creator>labert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my email to the author, followed by her reply:

&quot;Ms. Abcarian,

Dr. Kissinger, Dr. Rice, Dr. King.   If you find these titles
appropriate, please explain why you insinuate that Dr. Biden is somehow
pompous or disingenous when addressed by her proper academic title.   An
earned doctorate, regardless of the field, is an immense achievement
worthy of respect.  Your cheap shots reveal a bias unbecoming of someone
at least nominally filling the position of journalist.  Most egresgious
is the insinuation that somehow, because the European Union may have
rules to differentiate their degrees from ours, that her degree and
title are frauds.   You should apologize.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
You really should not be taking your marching orders from Media Matters,
who are a bunch of blowhards. I never suggested Jill Biden is guilty of
title abuse, and perhaps if you read the story, you would understand
that.
Best,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my email to the author, followed by her reply:</p>
<p>&#8220;Ms. Abcarian,</p>
<p>Dr. Kissinger, Dr. Rice, Dr. King.   If you find these titles<br />
appropriate, please explain why you insinuate that Dr. Biden is somehow<br />
pompous or disingenous when addressed by her proper academic title.   An<br />
earned doctorate, regardless of the field, is an immense achievement<br />
worthy of respect.  Your cheap shots reveal a bias unbecoming of someone<br />
at least nominally filling the position of journalist.  Most egresgious<br />
is the insinuation that somehow, because the European Union may have<br />
rules to differentiate their degrees from ours, that her degree and<br />
title are frauds.   You should apologize.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
You really should not be taking your marching orders from Media Matters,<br />
who are a bunch of blowhards. I never suggested Jill Biden is guilty of<br />
title abuse, and perhaps if you read the story, you would understand<br />
that.<br />
Best,</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/thats-dr-biden-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2886</link>
		<dc:creator>Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re absolutely spot-on in your analysis. Blech.

What&#039;s interesting to me is how this varies by field. In my field, no one I know goes by &quot;Dr.&quot;  They all prefer to be addressed by either &quot;Professor&quot; or their first name (at least with graduate students). I heard one joke that &quot;all professors are doctors, but not all doctors are professors,&quot;  suggesting it was the more exclusive/prestigious degree.  Either one, obviously, connotes respect for one&#039;s education and professional achievements in a way that &quot;Mrs.&quot; or first name do not.

Also, for me, what I call a prof is determined by what they invite me to call them or by how they sign their emails. If they sign their emails &quot;JWS&quot; (initials), then I address them as Professor.  If they sign &quot;Jane&quot; I take that as an invitation to use their first name.  Interestingly, almost all the faculty who have kept using their intials with me long after I first met them are male, and most of the faculty who invite the use of their first names are female. Don&#039;t know what that says, but that&#039;s my anecdotal experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re absolutely spot-on in your analysis. Blech.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s interesting to me is how this varies by field. In my field, no one I know goes by &#8220;Dr.&#8221;  They all prefer to be addressed by either &#8220;Professor&#8221; or their first name (at least with graduate students). I heard one joke that &#8220;all professors are doctors, but not all doctors are professors,&#8221;  suggesting it was the more exclusive/prestigious degree.  Either one, obviously, connotes respect for one&#8217;s education and professional achievements in a way that &#8220;Mrs.&#8221; or first name do not.</p>
<p>Also, for me, what I call a prof is determined by what they invite me to call them or by how they sign their emails. If they sign their emails &#8220;JWS&#8221; (initials), then I address them as Professor.  If they sign &#8220;Jane&#8221; I take that as an invitation to use their first name.  Interestingly, almost all the faculty who have kept using their intials with me long after I first met them are male, and most of the faculty who invite the use of their first names are female. Don&#8217;t know what that says, but that&#8217;s my anecdotal experience.</p>
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		<title>By: eastsidekate</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/thats-dr-biden-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2885</link>
		<dc:creator>eastsidekate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh... It appears that Mokele, Karthika and I all have different experiences in the sciences.  In mine, the default is to refer to strangers and new acquaintances in the academy as &quot;Dr.&quot;, although pretty much everyone uses first names after formal introductions.  However, I do see a gender gap in whether people assume one has a doctorate.  I&#039;ve had female friends who have regularly receive correspondence addressed to &quot;Ms.&quot;, where as I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s as common for male faculty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh&#8230; It appears that Mokele, Karthika and I all have different experiences in the sciences.  In mine, the default is to refer to strangers and new acquaintances in the academy as &#8220;Dr.&#8221;, although pretty much everyone uses first names after formal introductions.  However, I do see a gender gap in whether people assume one has a doctorate.  I&#8217;ve had female friends who have regularly receive correspondence addressed to &#8220;Ms.&#8221;, where as I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s as common for male faculty.</p>
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