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	<title>Comments on: The Price of War: Pentagon Lifts Ban on Flag-Draped Coffins</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Sweetnam</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/the-price-of-war-pentagon-lifts-ban-on-flag-draped-coffins/comment-page-1/#comment-3155</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Sweetnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mattbastard said: &quot;Also, John Pilger called — he wants his turgid purity trolling shtick back.&quot;

I met Pilger in Vietnam. He&#039;d just gotten back from Hanoi having sodomized Jane Fonda with his nose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mattbastard said: &#8220;Also, John Pilger called — he wants his turgid purity trolling shtick back.&#8221;</p>
<p>I met Pilger in Vietnam. He&#8217;d just gotten back from Hanoi having sodomized Jane Fonda with his nose.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalia Antonova</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalia Antonova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t mean “patronize” in its most common popular cultural usage: “condescending to” (the second of Merriam-Webster’s three definitions for the word), rather I mean “to be a patron of; to support” (the first of Merriam-Webster’s definitions for the word).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I know what you meant - I just don&#039;t think it&#039;s as cut and dry as that. Our writers don&#039;t choose the content of our Google ads, after all. And neither does your typical shoot &#039;em up necessarily patronize warfare itself (or so I personally believe, a case can be made either way). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t mean “patronize” in its most common popular cultural usage: “condescending to” (the second of Merriam-Webster’s three definitions for the word), rather I mean “to be a patron of; to support” (the first of Merriam-Webster’s definitions for the word).</p></blockquote>
<p>I know what you meant &#8211; I just don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s as cut and dry as that. Our writers don&#8217;t choose the content of our Google ads, after all. And neither does your typical shoot &#8216;em up necessarily patronize warfare itself (or so I personally believe, a case can be made either way).</p>
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		<title>By: matttbastard</title>
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		<dc:creator>matttbastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, John Pilger called -- he wants his turgid purity trolling shtick back.

(Jesus wept -- give me a subliterate drive-by wingnut over these lefter-than-thou Obama-is-teh-IMPERIAL-DEBBIL!!!1 f*ckwits.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, John Pilger called &#8212; he wants his turgid purity trolling shtick back.</p>
<p>(Jesus wept &#8212; give me a subliterate drive-by wingnut over these lefter-than-thou Obama-is-teh-IMPERIAL-DEBBIL!!!1 f*ckwits.)</p>
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		<title>By: matttbastard</title>
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		<dc:creator>matttbastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Tom -- I think that&#039;s what the kids call &quot;EPIC FAIL&quot;.

Kthnxbbai!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Tom &#8212; I think that&#8217;s what the kids call &#8220;EPIC FAIL&#8221;.</p>
<p>Kthnxbbai!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Sweetnam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Sweetnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natalia Antonova said: 

&quot;Then again, I don’t think that gaming necessarily &#039;patronizes warfare&#039; to begin with.&quot;

I don&#039;t mean &quot;patronize&quot; in its most common popular cultural usage: &quot;condescending to&quot; (the second of Merriam-Webster&#039;s three definitions for the word), rather I mean &quot;to be a patron of; to support&quot; (the first of Merriam-Webster&#039;s definitions for the word). Similar war games based on commercially available software are used by the US military to train troops. There was one called &quot;Aegis&quot; that made it all the way to the War College, and a couple of others they’ve long used to train tank crews and snipers. In fact, simulation software based on commercially available PC war games is in widespread use for combat training throughout the US military.

This is all a bit off topic however, since Ms Jaffe&#039;s article suggests America&#039;s mainstream media somehow gives a damn about dead American troops. They don&#039;t, not any more than they care about dead Arabs, Iranians, Afghans, Palestinians, Jews or the 36,000 bullet-riddled corpses that litter our own neighborhoods every year. Witness the absolute disappearance of &quot;antiwar&quot; demonstrators from America&#039;s streets now that Obama is President. Their onion skin deep empathy for people dying in the world&#039;s hotspots (Iraq, Afghanistan, Detroit, Chicago, Washington, DC, Los Angeles, etc.) itself died the nanosecond they were elected into power. 

To America’s left-wing mainstream media, those flag-draped aluminum coffins represent a means to a political end –a propaganda tool to be hackneyed for political gain. On a visceral level, they represent something far more sinister, an incomprehensible ephemeral condition wherein people, whether radical Islamic martyrs or US Army Rangers, are willing to die for abstractions, willing to forfeit their lives for a tenet, whether derived from religion, ideology, or politics. Things like that terrify the American left. Such self-sacrifice flies in the face of godlessness, degeneracy, self-indulgence, and cowardice, all hallmarks of Western liberalism. Thus the power of that flag-draped icon must be devalued, demeaned, and dehumanized. That’s what this is really all about. 

Obama’s comments on the issue are just as vapid and superficial as anything else he’s had to say on any other issue. Consider the fact that during 2008, the year he ran for president, 506 people were murdered in his Chicago senatorial riding while tens of thousands of others were shot, stabbed, robbed, raped, or otherwise violently assaulted. During the long weekend when he accused rural whites of being gun-loving rednecks, fourteen people were shot to death in his Chicago senatorial riding. You want to make the cost of war transparent do you Mr. Obama? Start with the buckets of blood being spilled in your own backyard before you condescend to fix to the rest of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natalia Antonova said: </p>
<p>&#8220;Then again, I don’t think that gaming necessarily &#8216;patronizes warfare&#8217; to begin with.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean &#8220;patronize&#8221; in its most common popular cultural usage: &#8220;condescending to&#8221; (the second of Merriam-Webster&#8217;s three definitions for the word), rather I mean &#8220;to be a patron of; to support&#8221; (the first of Merriam-Webster&#8217;s definitions for the word). Similar war games based on commercially available software are used by the US military to train troops. There was one called &#8220;Aegis&#8221; that made it all the way to the War College, and a couple of others they’ve long used to train tank crews and snipers. In fact, simulation software based on commercially available PC war games is in widespread use for combat training throughout the US military.</p>
<p>This is all a bit off topic however, since Ms Jaffe&#8217;s article suggests America&#8217;s mainstream media somehow gives a damn about dead American troops. They don&#8217;t, not any more than they care about dead Arabs, Iranians, Afghans, Palestinians, Jews or the 36,000 bullet-riddled corpses that litter our own neighborhoods every year. Witness the absolute disappearance of &#8220;antiwar&#8221; demonstrators from America&#8217;s streets now that Obama is President. Their onion skin deep empathy for people dying in the world&#8217;s hotspots (Iraq, Afghanistan, Detroit, Chicago, Washington, DC, Los Angeles, etc.) itself died the nanosecond they were elected into power. </p>
<p>To America’s left-wing mainstream media, those flag-draped aluminum coffins represent a means to a political end –a propaganda tool to be hackneyed for political gain. On a visceral level, they represent something far more sinister, an incomprehensible ephemeral condition wherein people, whether radical Islamic martyrs or US Army Rangers, are willing to die for abstractions, willing to forfeit their lives for a tenet, whether derived from religion, ideology, or politics. Things like that terrify the American left. Such self-sacrifice flies in the face of godlessness, degeneracy, self-indulgence, and cowardice, all hallmarks of Western liberalism. Thus the power of that flag-draped icon must be devalued, demeaned, and dehumanized. That’s what this is really all about. </p>
<p>Obama’s comments on the issue are just as vapid and superficial as anything else he’s had to say on any other issue. Consider the fact that during 2008, the year he ran for president, 506 people were murdered in his Chicago senatorial riding while tens of thousands of others were shot, stabbed, robbed, raped, or otherwise violently assaulted. During the long weekend when he accused rural whites of being gun-loving rednecks, fourteen people were shot to death in his Chicago senatorial riding. You want to make the cost of war transparent do you Mr. Obama? Start with the buckets of blood being spilled in your own backyard before you condescend to fix to the rest of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: News for February 27 &#124; Xenia Institute</title>
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		<dc:creator>News for February 27 &#124; Xenia Institute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Price of War: Pentagon Lifts Ban on Flag-Draped Coffins  &#124;  Global Comment The administration should take pains to keep all of its promises of transparency on the wars, even as soldiers come home from Iraq and more are sent to Afghanistan. The American public needs to know not only the cost of war in dollars and national debt, but what happens to the people who go to fight. This includes not only photos of flag-draped coffins and funeral processions, but continued coverage of veterans issues for those who survive, as our technology has made it possible for soldiers who might have been in one of those coffins years ago to survive. If we’re going to send soldiers to war, we should be able to face the results. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Price of War: Pentagon Lifts Ban on Flag-Draped Coffins  |  Global Comment The administration should take pains to keep all of its promises of transparency on the wars, even as soldiers come home from Iraq and more are sent to Afghanistan. The American public needs to know not only the cost of war in dollars and national debt, but what happens to the people who go to fight. This includes not only photos of flag-draped coffins and funeral processions, but continued coverage of veterans issues for those who survive, as our technology has made it possible for soldiers who might have been in one of those coffins years ago to survive. If we’re going to send soldiers to war, we should be able to face the results. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Natalia Antonova</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/the-price-of-war-pentagon-lifts-ban-on-flag-draped-coffins/comment-page-1/#comment-3142</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalia Antonova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Sweetnam - ever hear of Google Ads? The one I&#039;m seeing right now is advertising a new broadband service. 

Then again, I don&#039;t think that gaming necessarily &quot;patronizes warfare&quot; to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Sweetnam &#8211; ever hear of Google Ads? The one I&#8217;m seeing right now is advertising a new broadband service. </p>
<p>Then again, I don&#8217;t think that gaming necessarily &#8220;patronizes warfare&#8221; to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Sweetnam</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/the-price-of-war-pentagon-lifts-ban-on-flag-draped-coffins/comment-page-1/#comment-3140</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Sweetnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the fact that this article carries an ad on the same page for an online shoot-em-up war game web site. May as well make a few bucks patronizing warfare while we&#039;re moralizing over its angst, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the fact that this article carries an ad on the same page for an online shoot-em-up war game web site. May as well make a few bucks patronizing warfare while we&#8217;re moralizing over its angst, eh?</p>
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