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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a link to an article on Madonna&#039;s adoption by Jacques Peretti of The GuardianI hope people will pay heed to. 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jun/12/madonna-mercy-malawi  

 What has happened with Madonna adopting a second child against their family&#039;s wishes is very disturbing. Angelina Jolie&#039;s oldest daughter also was adopted in a disturbing manner, with the grandmother against the adoption.  

Mercy&#039;s father is a very young man, holds a job, and his story is very sad.  Governments of these countries are pressured by these rich westeners who in turn pressure these childrens families.  Mercy&#039;s grandmother actually delivered Mercy.  She has emphatically and repeatedly stated she does not want her granddaughter, whom she ushered into this world and whose daughter she watched die to have her,  taken from her country.  

Just because a person is struggling to survive does not mean they do not love their offspring.  There are different understandings, coping mechanisms and means of bonding and feeling cared for in poverty stricken counries where the children are raised in orphanages. In war torn and impoverished countries children often  are sent to orphanages so they can simply eat, however they do not lose connection with their families nor identity.  It is horrible to see truly desperate peoples familial bonds broken over and over again because westerners who want their babies have enough money to break them.  Madonna set up a visit between David and his father but the fact stands that steamrolling over a povety sricken family&#039;s wishes is not right. These people love their children, or childrens children, too, but can&#039;t stand up to such wealth and power of their governments pressuring them not to make scenes and then guilting them that the child will be better off. They have little to no rescource or recourse to fight or plead their case. 

 If celebrities bond with babies that have family, better to send the family/baby a monthly stipend so the child can have education, and support the family with a means to travel to see the child  and feed and provide for the child.  Breaking up families is not right and not good for the country, international relations, the people of the country nor the children themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a link to an article on Madonna&#8217;s adoption by Jacques Peretti of The GuardianI hope people will pay heed to. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jun/12/madonna-mercy-malawi" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jun/12/madonna-mercy-malawi</a>  </p>
<p> What has happened with Madonna adopting a second child against their family&#8217;s wishes is very disturbing. Angelina Jolie&#8217;s oldest daughter also was adopted in a disturbing manner, with the grandmother against the adoption.  </p>
<p>Mercy&#8217;s father is a very young man, holds a job, and his story is very sad.  Governments of these countries are pressured by these rich westeners who in turn pressure these childrens families.  Mercy&#8217;s grandmother actually delivered Mercy.  She has emphatically and repeatedly stated she does not want her granddaughter, whom she ushered into this world and whose daughter she watched die to have her,  taken from her country.  </p>
<p>Just because a person is struggling to survive does not mean they do not love their offspring.  There are different understandings, coping mechanisms and means of bonding and feeling cared for in poverty stricken counries where the children are raised in orphanages. In war torn and impoverished countries children often  are sent to orphanages so they can simply eat, however they do not lose connection with their families nor identity.  It is horrible to see truly desperate peoples familial bonds broken over and over again because westerners who want their babies have enough money to break them.  Madonna set up a visit between David and his father but the fact stands that steamrolling over a povety sricken family&#8217;s wishes is not right. These people love their children, or childrens children, too, but can&#8217;t stand up to such wealth and power of their governments pressuring them not to make scenes and then guilting them that the child will be better off. They have little to no rescource or recourse to fight or plead their case. </p>
<p> If celebrities bond with babies that have family, better to send the family/baby a monthly stipend so the child can have education, and support the family with a means to travel to see the child  and feed and provide for the child.  Breaking up families is not right and not good for the country, international relations, the people of the country nor the children themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: shine your light on the world &#171; here we go</title>
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		<dc:creator>shine your light on the world &#171; here we go</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 02:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] follow up on my previous post about the whole Madonna adopting black babies, I found this piece on Global Comment written by blogger and my twitter friend, Renee Martin. Renee has a way of articulating almost [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] follow up on my previous post about the whole Madonna adopting black babies, I found this piece on Global Comment written by blogger and my twitter friend, Renee Martin. Renee has a way of articulating almost [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renee,
I agree with you 100% on this:

&quot;In terms of Westerners sweeping in an “doing good”, since they/we are responsible for the impoverishment of the third world it is our duty to mitigate some of the damage that we have done in whatever way we can without enforcing harmful cultural norms.&quot;

I agree! BUT I&#039;m not sure a popstar giving financial aid to a single family accomplishes this goal--especially if she just takes it upon herself to figure out how and what to give. I&#039;m saying that this may do more/other damage that we cannot--as cultural outsiders--foresee or appreciate AND that the money--if the transaction was not handled in a culturally appropriate way--might not go to Mercy&#039;s care. I&#039;m all for supporting the child remaining with her family of origin--I&#039;m just not sure what the best way of going about that is.

As to your other comment:
&quot;Madonna is interested in collecting children like prada purses not in doing good.&quot;
I actually think that Madonna IS interested in doing good, but she has a very confused/screwed up notion of what that means. There&#039;s some analysis of that and some suggestions of what might be useful here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/12/AR2006111200943.html?
I&#039;ve also written about this article here: http://nobody-asked-you.blogspot.com/2009/04/in-all-hubbub-and-bluster-swirling.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renee,<br />
I agree with you 100% on this:</p>
<p>&#8220;In terms of Westerners sweeping in an “doing good”, since they/we are responsible for the impoverishment of the third world it is our duty to mitigate some of the damage that we have done in whatever way we can without enforcing harmful cultural norms.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree! BUT I&#8217;m not sure a popstar giving financial aid to a single family accomplishes this goal&#8211;especially if she just takes it upon herself to figure out how and what to give. I&#8217;m saying that this may do more/other damage that we cannot&#8211;as cultural outsiders&#8211;foresee or appreciate AND that the money&#8211;if the transaction was not handled in a culturally appropriate way&#8211;might not go to Mercy&#8217;s care. I&#8217;m all for supporting the child remaining with her family of origin&#8211;I&#8217;m just not sure what the best way of going about that is.</p>
<p>As to your other comment:<br />
&#8220;Madonna is interested in collecting children like prada purses not in doing good.&#8221;<br />
I actually think that Madonna IS interested in doing good, but she has a very confused/screwed up notion of what that means. There&#8217;s some analysis of that and some suggestions of what might be useful here:<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/12/AR2006111200943.html?" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/12/AR2006111200943.html?</a><br />
I&#8217;ve also written about this article here: <a href="http://nobody-asked-you.blogspot.com/2009/04/in-all-hubbub-and-bluster-swirling.html" rel="nofollow">http://nobody-asked-you.blogspot.com/2009/04/in-all-hubbub-and-bluster-swirling.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mercy is not in an orphanage because is not wanted by her family but because they cannot afford her care that is the fact that you are neglecting in your analysis.  Providing for her family or helping her community would ensure that Mercy could return home.  Madonna is interested in collecting children like prada purses not in doing good.

In terms of Westerners sweeping in an &quot;doing good&quot;, since they/we are responsible for the impoverishment of the third world it is our duty to mitigate some of the damage that we have done in whatever way we can without enforcing harmful cultural norms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mercy is not in an orphanage because is not wanted by her family but because they cannot afford her care that is the fact that you are neglecting in your analysis.  Providing for her family or helping her community would ensure that Mercy could return home.  Madonna is interested in collecting children like prada purses not in doing good.</p>
<p>In terms of Westerners sweeping in an &#8220;doing good&#8221;, since they/we are responsible for the impoverishment of the third world it is our duty to mitigate some of the damage that we have done in whatever way we can without enforcing harmful cultural norms.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://globalcomment.com/2009/white-womans-burden-madonna-and-the-malawian-adoption/comment-page-1/#comment-3644</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, I&#039;m not crazy about Madonna&#039;s behavior either, but let&#039;s be clear: the child is not WITH her grandmother; she is in an orphanage. I&#039;m sure the orphanage workers are doing the very best they can, but an orphanage is not a place where children thrive. So, although I don&#039;t like how Madonna has gone about this attempted adoption or her other adoption, I can&#039;t fault her for wanting to offer a child a life outside an orphanage. 

As for this &quot;If Madonna’s interests were truly not predatory, she could provide Mercy’s family with more than enough financial aid for them to raise her with advantages,&quot;--I&#039;d say that it&#039;s not that simple. If only it were. Of course Madonna could provide Mercy&#039;s family with more than enough money to live well. But what would be the consequences? An outsider swooping in with lots of money for a single family in an impoverished area is also problematic, and also has a bit of the Western Savior stuff to it that gives me the willies. But beyond that, what would be the social consequences for the family? Would everyone around them be jealous? Would they become targets of thieves? Of corrupt politicans? I&#039;m all for the Oprah-like intervention that helps a whole community but I think this sponsor-a-family idea is a bit naive, and has consequences we can&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, I&#8217;m not crazy about Madonna&#8217;s behavior either, but let&#8217;s be clear: the child is not WITH her grandmother; she is in an orphanage. I&#8217;m sure the orphanage workers are doing the very best they can, but an orphanage is not a place where children thrive. So, although I don&#8217;t like how Madonna has gone about this attempted adoption or her other adoption, I can&#8217;t fault her for wanting to offer a child a life outside an orphanage. </p>
<p>As for this &#8220;If Madonna’s interests were truly not predatory, she could provide Mercy’s family with more than enough financial aid for them to raise her with advantages,&#8221;&#8211;I&#8217;d say that it&#8217;s not that simple. If only it were. Of course Madonna could provide Mercy&#8217;s family with more than enough money to live well. But what would be the consequences? An outsider swooping in with lots of money for a single family in an impoverished area is also problematic, and also has a bit of the Western Savior stuff to it that gives me the willies. But beyond that, what would be the social consequences for the family? Would everyone around them be jealous? Would they become targets of thieves? Of corrupt politicans? I&#8217;m all for the Oprah-like intervention that helps a whole community but I think this sponsor-a-family idea is a bit naive, and has consequences we can&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Links - 2009-04-13 at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links - 2009-04-13 at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Egyptgirl42</title>
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		<dc:creator>Egyptgirl42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but this is clearly a case of kidnapping.  The family&#039;s resistance to the adoption makes such an adoption completely illegal.  Maybe we should start a petition to get Madonna and the others involved for kidnapping.  Truly gross, neo-colonialist, bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but this is clearly a case of kidnapping.  The family&#8217;s resistance to the adoption makes such an adoption completely illegal.  Maybe we should start a petition to get Madonna and the others involved for kidnapping.  Truly gross, neo-colonialist, bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: snowwoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>snowwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s awful. How was this girl even considered for adoption if she&#039;s still with her grandmother, and her grandmother doesn&#039;t want her adopted? It sounds like kidnapping!

And I agree that she should have gone the Oprah route.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s awful. How was this girl even considered for adoption if she&#8217;s still with her grandmother, and her grandmother doesn&#8217;t want her adopted? It sounds like kidnapping!</p>
<p>And I agree that she should have gone the Oprah route.</p>
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		<title>By: octogalore</title>
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		<dc:creator>octogalore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How awful, that she would go against the express wishes of the family.  Especially because, as you say, she could help in ways that are compatible with the child remaining with her family. 

There are a number of children in orphanages without relatives who are living or without relatives who care about them.  Full disclosure: my parents adopted two such children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How awful, that she would go against the express wishes of the family.  Especially because, as you say, she could help in ways that are compatible with the child remaining with her family. </p>
<p>There are a number of children in orphanages without relatives who are living or without relatives who care about them.  Full disclosure: my parents adopted two such children.</p>
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